in other words, if you're going to cut taxes you cut taxes nationally. you cut rates. you don't target. there's -- the fargetting and particularly this is true at the state and local level, the targeting is where giveaways takes place and targeting is where you play with -- you play -- you figure out ways to appeal to people, right? so what that means is if you're at a time when broad-based tax cuts is no longer a realistic strategy, then the only way to get past where we are now is through economic growth, right? that -- economic growth is the only solution, private sector economic growth is the only solution to refilling government coffers so that the money doesn't have to come directly from the taxpayer and reducing the debt and reducing the deficit under those conditions. now here's where it gets interesting, because the republican solutions to economic growth widely and understandably has been tax cuts. that is -- that is the policy that has been. now what if the republican solution is, i think the first person to lay out succinctly as anybody is a series of gover